Skill tiers
note: Classic Era 1.12 baseline; Forever has Legacy Challenges at 150/225/300 which matches these breakpoints, but Forever trainer level requirements are unpublished. tiers: rank: Apprentice; skill_range: 1-75; min_char_level: 5; rank: Journeyman; skill_range: 75-150; min_char_level: 10; rank: Expert; skill_range: 150-225; min_char_level: 20; rank: Artisan; skill_range: 225-300; min_char_level: 35 forever_legacy_challenges: Profession skill 150 / 225 / 300 each award 1 Legacy Point (Icy Veins names them Novice/Experienced/Master; fan sites say Journeyman/Expert/Artisan <Profession>) confidence: Classic-baseline (tiers); Reported (Forever Legacy milestones)
Forever changes
• New schematics on the ACA vendor (Reported, Warcraft Tavern 2026-09-15): goggles for every armor type (Bent, Dented, Floppy, Stuckbutton) with an Ornate Spyglass-style zoom use; 'Stealthman 52' (out-of-combat stealth on cooldown for any class); 'Emergency Field Cloak' trinket (10 sec invisibility, charges recharged with Ultrasafe Rechargeable Battery); Tinkers incl. Nitro Boosts and a Blink-like teleport; NYI: Interdimensional Companion Repository, Gnomish Weather Machine • Most of these items are BoE and do not require Engineering to use (Reported) - weakens the 'must be an engineer' PvP argument for these specific items • New materials in recipes: Azerothium Bar, Legionite Bar, Torbernite, Marefoil, Viridian Dye (Reported) • Gnomish and Goblin specializations remain with new toys/crafts (Reported, fan sites from demo) • Gnome racial 'Engineering Specialization': 'More reliable engineering devices' (replaces Classic +15 Engineering skill) (Confirmed) • No stat perk unlike other professions (Reported, Zockify) • Campsite objects: none shown (Unknown) • Engineering Certification (300) -> title (Reported) • [General] Part of 600+ new recipes across professions and level ranges (Official) • [General] 3 campsite objects per profession, first learnable at skill 20 from trainers or camping NPCs (Official for concept/skill 20) • [General] Advanced Blueprint recipes drop from specific dungeon bosses; boss-to-blueprint tables unpublished (Official) • [General] Profession Certification item requiring 300 skill grants a unique title; sold by Azeroth Commerce Authority (Alliance) / Durotar Supply and Logistics (Horde) vendors at Three Corners, Redridge (Reported, Warcraft Tavern from demo) • [General] Legacy Challenges: 1 Legacy Point each at skill 150/225/300 (Reported) • [Sept 28 research] 80 new recipes added (Reported, single aggregator source Zockify). • [Sept 28 research] Campsite object line reported as Reagent Bot -> Repair Bot -> Anarchist's Workbench, providing vendor access at a campsite rather than a stat buff — notably different in kind from every other profession's camp buff (Reported, single source Warcraft Tavern table). • [Sept 28 research] Perk: Gnome racial: 'Engineering Specialization' reduces the chance that Engineering gadgets backfire (Confirmed: Warcraft Tavern professions guide) — not applicable to a Horde Skyborne character. • [Sept 28 research] Druid note: Low-to-moderate: Engineering is generally a fun/utility profession (mounts, gadgets, repair bots) rather than a stat-optimal pick for any leather class; the portable Repair Bot / vendor access could have quality-of-life value while leveling solo, but nothing Forever-specific ties it to Druids. • [Sept 28 research] Gnomish and Goblin specializations kept, chosen at skill 200 / level 30 (Reported, Zockify). • [Sept 28 research] Alliance ACA Engineering vendor Fritz Fizzle, Three Corners, Redridge (about 10.4, 74.2): schematics from skill 25-100 for 45 Merchant's Favor, 165-250 for 180, 250-300 for 270-360; Engineering Certification 1,000 Favor (Confirmed). • [Sept 28 research] No caster or healer goggles found; the new goggles are utility/vision items (Reported). No Forever change to Goblin Jumper Cables found. • [Sept 28 research] Mining is the natural companion for bars and stone (Reported). No Engineering source lists Shaman Totems; they are Enchanting relics (Confirmed, 4 sources). • [Sept 28 research] Sept 24 beta patch made no Leatherworking or Engineering changes (Official).
Key products
• Bombs, Sappers, Target Dummies, Nets (Classic-baseline) • Scopes and ammo for Hunters (Classic-baseline) • Goggles for all armor types (Reported) • Stealthman 52 / Emergency Field Cloak / Tinkers (Reported) • Classic Gnomish: Mind Control Cap, Death Ray, World Enlarger; Goblin: Sapper Charge, Rocket Helm, Dragonling (Classic-baseline) • Reagent Bot / Repair Bot / Anarchist's Workbench (portable vendor-access camp objects).
Trainers
horde: Orgrimmar: Nogg / Roxxik (Valley of Honor); Undercity: Graham Van Talen / Franklin Lloyd; Thunder Bluff: none in Classic (Classic-baseline) alliance: Ironforge: Springspindle Fizzlegear (Tinker Town); Stormwind: Lilliam Sparkspindle artisan: Buzzek Bracketswing - outside the Gadgetzan inn, Tanaris (neutral) note: Classic-baseline names
Specializations
Gnomish: Classic: skill 200; quest from Lilliam Sparkspindle/Springspindle Fizzlegear/Graham Van Talen/Tinkerwiz; finish with Tinkmaster Overspark (Ironforge) or Oglethorpe Obnoticus (Booty Bay) Goblin: Classic: skill 200; turn in 20 Big Iron Bomb, 20 Solid Dynamite, 5 Explosive Sheep to Nixx Sprocketspring (Gadgetzan); Vazario Linkgrease (Booty Bay) also Goblin forever: Both specializations confirmed by fan transcriptions (Reported); requirements unpublished